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Ian Hamilton and Wayne Grudem: A Debate on the Continuation of Prophecy

February 23, 2012
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  1. February 25, 2012 3:08 am

    If Grudem is correct, why limit his search for scriptural passages from Genesis to Revelation? Why not the Apocrypha and the Book of Mormon? The idea of continuing prophecy is not compatible with sola scriptura. Either the Bible is the complete special revelation of God, or it isn’t.

    Of course, Grudem is aware of this problem, so he is forced to make the modern charismatic gift of prophecy to be a “very human” and “sometimes mistaken” resource. Peter, however, is very clear that no prophecy ever originated this way. “Mistaken” prophecy = False Prophecy (Deut. 18:18-22)

    The rest of his argument is a strawman, ie “God does not communicate personally and individually”, “personal guidance”, etc. No one would suggest that, but this is not prophecy. (Prophecy is not subjective. Grudem should know better.)

  2. March 7, 2012 11:56 am

    I think Grudem believes that Scripture alone is normative communication for all believers. I thought he explained his position very clearly, namely that the Scriptures clearly say that God communicated directly to people at times and in ways that are not captured in the Scriptures.

    I don’t know anyone who debates that God communicates directly and specifically to individual Christians during conviction of sin. Rom 8:15 – 17 indicates that the Holy Spirit communicates personally and individually to Christians to give confidence that they are adopted as sons of God.

    Have you read his Systematic Theology? He explains his doctrine of the Bible very clearly, and covers this topic much more holistically than the format here allows.

  3. March 9, 2012 1:45 am

    Thanks Michael.

    I have read his Systematic Theology, and other books where he states his case. The problem is that he wants both sola scriptura and the continuation of special revelation. He is fully aware of the ramifications that continuing revelation would have on the closed canon, so he is forced to redefine prophecy as a very human, sometimes mistaken revelation.

    In any case, he has a ton of strawmen arguments in this video. He argued against the claims he made in my previous post, claims that no cessationist I knoe of ever claimed.

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